«The question is not about being pro-Russian, but about being adequate». Krautsou commented on Babaryka's press conference
«No Belarusian in Minsk or Gomel would think of telling stories about Russia collapsing».
Ivan Krautsou. Photo: LookByMedia
«We asked them not to participate, but the Ukrainian side left them no choice,» Ivan Krautsou stated in an interview with Free Russia Foundation Vice-President Grigory Frolov in a new episode of the «Razbor» project on the «Transit» channel, recalling the press conference, which Viktor Babaryka and Maria Kalesnikava attended on the second day after their release.
Mentioning the sharp reaction of a certain part of Belarusians, Krautsou explained that such outrage most often comes from a narrow group of people in the diaspora, whom he called «very radical and very energized.» According to Krautsou, it is a big mistake to perceive this group as the main one.
«If you are a popular Belarusian politician, you should work with the public opinion of the majority of Belarusians, and not focus on this energized audience. This is a basic principle,» he emphasized.
Viktor Babaryka and Maria Kalesnikava during a press conference on December 14, 2025. Photo: LookByMedia
Separately, Krautsou focused on the attitude towards Russia during the conversation.
«We can dislike Putin as much as we want. We can say as much as we want what he has done. We can say it. But Russia will not disappear,» the Babaryka supporter reiterated his position and called the calls and expectations, popular in some circles, that the neighboring state would «collapse or disappear» as «fantasy».
«Sometimes it just makes me laugh to hear, (...) people make statements: Russia must collapse, it must disappear, it must vanish, and so on. Well, from my point of view, this is, as it were, fantasy, a fantasy discourse».
As Krautsou emphasized, Russia is «a huge country with which we are in the Union State».
Krautsou is convinced that the rhetoric about the «collapse of Russia» is completely uncharacteristic of people living inside the country.
«According to public opinion, people in our country, on average, have a very positive attitude towards the Russian Federation. They go there to work; it is our main trading partner. No Belarusian, who is, say, in Minsk or Gomel, would think of telling stories about how everything, now there should be, I don’t know, a nuclear mushroom, all this should collapse. Well, this is some kind of, frankly, delusion».
At the same time, the speaker noted that it is not about sympathies for Moscow, but about political competence.
«The question here is not about being pro-Russian, the question is about adequacy. If you understand anything at all about the international system, about the security architecture, about macroeconomics, about politics, about working with an audience, you simply cannot imagine such a thing in your head. That you need to spend time talking on streams like, 'let's wait for Russia to collapse'».
What else was discussed in the interview is unknown. Its recording appeared on December 17, but soon disappeared from access without explanation.
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